Kehleyr - Welcome to the 76th UO House of
Commons Chat!
Kehleyr - This chat will be in a moderated
format. To ask a question of the OSI Staff, please /msg or /query the question
takers that will be listed in the topic of the channel. These question takers
will then present the questions to the Ultima Online evelopment/community/programming
team here with us this evening.
Kehleyr - Our question takers are: Kiir, Brannoc
& Lord-Xanthor
Kehleyr - They are easily recognisable by
the [QT] in front of their names.
Kehleyr - I will be your moderator tonight...
I will post your question into the House of Commons chat channel and the team
will answer those that they can.
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may have been asked previously or may not be able to be answered in a public forum.
Please do not message or query myself or anyone from OSI, these questions will
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Kehleyr - Tonight's topic is: BARDING!
Kehleyr - All other questions will be ignored,
so please only ask questions about barding or the upcoming changes to them.
Kehleyr - *LadyTygress* Are there any plans
to get rid of the uber "Young" bards before publish 16?
Vex - Publish 16 itself will remove any "uberness"
from [Young] bards by its very design. Once a bard character has gotten enough
skill to be effective in the real tough and loot-heavy areas, he won't be young
anymore. As far as *before* Pub 16, we aren't doing anything special.
Kehleyr - *Nadya_Modavia* Suppose I use targeted
peacemaking on a dragon and succeed (e.g., 50% chance). Furthermore, suppose the
chance of suppressing subsequent aggression is 75%. Does this mean that 3 out
of the 4 times that it would attack it would return to a calmed state instead
of attacking? Or will the calming effect cease if the chance of suppressing subsequent
aggression fails?
Vex - Once the suppressive calming effect
is broken by the dragon and it attacks someone, it will no longer be under the
effects of the peacemake and will have to be calmed again.
Kehleyr - *Nadger* Any chance you could leave
entice in? Just have it be when u double click on your instrament then on a monster...it
was handy for bringing another monster over to provoke or leading him into an
AOE.
Vex - Right now we have no plans to do that.
Right now you can currently entice any monster that isn't already fighting someone/something
by going into war mode and double-clicking it. To tell the truth, the Enticement
skill is rarely if ever used for any legitimite purpose and there isn't much reason
to keep it in. Especially at a cost of skill points.
Kehleyr - *XavierArcanus* Why was the barding
"fix" made so complex? Why not change what needed to be(difficulty based provocation)
and leave it at that?
Vex - Well, it actually started off a lot
more complex but quickly got trimmed back. The overall solution required keeping
the bard in the same location as the targets in addition to introducing a universally
applyable scale of difficulty.
Vex - The former is to keep people from farming
entire dungeon levels (and even multiple dungeons at once, which we have witnessed).
The latter was done so we wouldn't have to keep adding in bard-specific limitations
to any new content added to the game intended for group play.
Kehleyr - *SmokeSerpent* What, if any effect
will targetted peacemaking have on other players?
Vex - Area-effect peacemake will work on players
just like peacemake works now, by dropping them out of war mode. Targeted peacemake
won't be usable against players.
Kehleyr - *BryteStar* will you consider discordance
for use on players? As it stands, bards aren't the most useful people in PvP
Vex - There are a lot of issues with doing
that. Stacking different effects like Discord and the Weakness spell with a Greater
Strength potion has been known in the past to cause problems. Right now we don't
have any space on our schedule to properly analyze and account for all the possible
interactions between discordance on players and all other stat modifying effects.
Kehleyr - *haties* are the new barding features
going to make a significant mark in the pvp world?
Evocare|OSI - Probably not.
Evocare|OSI - There are already a lot of moving
parts with respect to PvP in publish 16, so we were careful in trying to make
sure that barding didn't become one too many factors happening at once.
Kehleyr - *Jon_Snow* With the one shot peacemaking,
will it be like Peacemaking is currently? If not, what's the difference?
Vex - It will be like it is now, except that
the actual radius of effect is determined by your peacemaking skill. It will also
activate slightly slower. To elaborate:
Vex - For fastest activation, you'll need
to set up a macro to UseSkill Peacemaking/WaitForTarg/TargetSelf. The extra pause
while the macro handles the targeting for you will cause a slight delay.
Kehleyr - *Nadya_Modavia* According to the
testing that our bard focus group assisted with on internal test center, a bard
with gm provocation, gm musicianship, and an exceptional instrument had a 50%
to provoke 2 dragons. This chance goes up to 90% at 120 provocation. +40% increase.
How about a less linear increase from the skill scrolls? Say 70% to provocation
a dragon at GM and 90% at 120?
Vex - The calculation of the barding difficulty
itself is non-linear. It works basically by totalling up the non-modified values
for the creature's stats and combat skills, and applies special bonuses for special
abilities like fire breat or spell use.
Vex - As far as the actual effects of skills
above 120 affecting the chance to successfully perform the skill based on the
difficulty of the task, I'd honestly prefer to keep it linear like it is now.
However, we will take your suggestion into consideration.
Kehleyr - *BryteStar* After barding, when
will the next significant PvP upgrade be?
Evocare|OSI - Expect lots of way cool stuff
for combat in the next major publish after 16.
Evocare|OSI - That applies to all forms of
combat of course, not just pvp =]
Kehleyr - *PeterGabriel* What do you consider
a true bard, bards that have all music skills, or bards that augment thier skills
with magery, combat, or even taming? How did this effect your changes to the skill?
Evocare|OSI - Actually, we base it on how
many instruments you have at home. Without those, you're clearly a fradulent bard.
;]
Evocare|OSI - err, that's "fraudulent"
* Kehleyr hands evo a dictionary *
Evocare|OSI - 'n stuff
Evocare|OSI - ;]
Vex - Current feedback from our player playtesters
indicates that solo treasure hunting is still very doable using bard skills. It's
just more difficult and risky. Right now we're happy with that feedback -- we
don't want to make solo treasure hunting impossible. I'd suggest giving it a try
when we open up the test shard to the public -- I think you'll be surprised!
Kehleyr - *Han Solo of GL* a proposal for
t-hunters, these changes will hurt us alot, esp those of us that do freebies for
newer players, perhaps Cart and picking skill can be used to add bonus to provoke,
just as anat does to melee and jumber jack does to swords at 80 and again at GM.
This way the all powerful bards do not control, but t-hunters can survive the
hunts, few monsters hunters will go through the pains to GM cart
Kehleyr - and that answer was for that question
I just posted btw
* Vex is doing that psychic thing again, posting the answer
before the question is there... :) *
Kehleyr - *Falford* will + 20 skill scrolls
be comon enough for the avrage player to have a rosonable chance to get 120 provoke
?
Evocare|OSI - I'm guessing that'll be entirely
dependant on how hard you try. They sure won't be falling out of the sky and landing
in your bank box. =]
Evocare|OSI - Unfortunately terms like "common",
"reasonable chance", etc are very subjective
Evocare|OSI - I do believe that it's certainly
worth a shot though =]
Kehleyr - *XenaDragon* I'd like to see player
bards play their own tunes in UO. Any chance of that happening?
Vex - To be quite honest, I see it as a very
slim probability. In order to do something like that, we'd have to develop and
test a whole interface for entering music, or work out a way for players to upload
their own MIDIs. In either case, the number of people who would actually compose
their own music this way would be small. Mostly it would be used to enter copyrighted
material -- I'm not even sure if we could get the feature by EA Legal.
Kehleyr - *Neoptolemos* Is OSI planning on
making formerly unprovokable creatures provokable now that barding will be much
harder?
Vex - Yes. Some creatures will remain un-provokable
where it is fictionally appropriate. Some creatures will have such a very high
difficulty rating that they'll automatically be unbardable, but those will definitely
not be the norm.
Kehleyr - *Syd* Will OSI put ALL barding changes
in, or will they be revised?
Vex - I'd say "tweaked" would be a better
word. I don't see another major revision to the changes happening, but we certainly
do intend to make some small balance changes before Publish 16 goes live.
Kehleyr - *Siofra* You say that magical instruments
will be available. Will these be craftable by tinkers with some magery or will
they be loot?
Vex - The magical instruments will be available
only as loot, but I can't say for certain they will never be craftable. They'll
definitely not be rare items, but they also won't be so common as to devalue exceptional
carpenter-made instruments.
Kehleyr - *Falford* what is the curently projected
time line for pub 16 to be made available for public testing and its release ?
Evocare|OSI - There'll be no less then a month
between opening for public testing and release, but I can't be any more specific
then that.
Kehleyr - *Xegugg* Will the current "newbie"
instruments that bard have had for sometime now be able to wear out?
Vex - Yes, existing newbie instruments will
wear out. In fairness, warriors' weapons and armor wear out, mages need reagents,
tamers need to feed and bandage their pets, and archers need arrows. Only bards
have been able to resurrect with their primary weapon at the ready.
Kehleyr - *Lenaya* In your barding proposal,
you state that exceptional instruments will grant bards 5 bonus skill points of
effect. Will there be a difference between exceptional and GM made instruments?
Vex - Just like every other crafted item,
there is no difference other than the maker's mark between an exceptional item
made by a Grandmaster and one made by a non-GM
Kehleyr - *Kezelran* Any plans to make instruments
dyeable?
Vex - Right now there are no plans for that,
sorry. :(
Kehleyr - *Nadya_Modavia* Based on internal
testing thus far by players and the Dev Team, What specific tweaks you are considering
or will do for barding?
Vex - We are still evaluating feedback and
haven't come to any firm decisions yet. I don't want to mention any specifics
right yet, because anything I say now would be very subject to change. I'd hate
to build false expectations.
Kehleyr - *Anthea* Any plans to fix the bug
where you can entice a bunny and gain like gazillions in musicianship?
Vex - Yes. :)
Kehleyr - *Sara* The new skill of discordance
replaces enticement. Does this mean that those with GM Entice will have to drop
that and retrain in Discordance, or will it automatically just rename itself?
Vex - Yes, the skill reamins there and is
basically renamed and given a different purpose. Any points you have in Enticement
right now will automatically be transferred to Discordance with Publish 16.
Kehleyr - *Syd* What will the ratio be with
GM Provoke to successful provokes on dragons: failed
Vex - It's in the neighborhood of 40:60 success:fail
with an exceptional instrument to provoke two dragons on each other. The actual
chance of success depends on the exact stats and skills of the dragon. No two
are created equal -- the server literally rolls up their stats on virtual dice,
so their actual stats and skill levels fall on a bell curve within a predetermined
range.
Kehleyr - *MaydayMike* any new instruments
coming? flutes for instance?
Vex - Not at this time, sorry.
Kehleyr - *LadyTygress* As a follow-up to
Falford's question earlier, let us assume that the evil-in-a-can spawn is being
killed off instantly as it spawns. How often should we expect to see skill scrolls
under those conditions?
Evocare|OSI - That's not a simple question
to answer accurately since there are some other variables such as the number of
activated spawns based on the number of people on the local server.
Evocare|OSI - However, for any given active
spawn that is fought with perfect efficiency, it's no more then a couple scrolls
on average.
Evocare|OSI - per hour.
Evocare|OSI - There is the factor of the decreased
chance to get better scrolls though, so that adds another complicating factor.
;]
Kehleyr - *XenaDragon* Do bards need to sing
to their plants to make them grow faster?
Sannio - I tried growing a plant last night,
and it's already dead. I'd be worried if I tried to sing to it I'd take down a
whole forest. :]
* XenaDragon chuckles *
Kehleyr - Thankyou everyone for taking the
time to attend tonight's HOC and a special thankyou to everyone at Origin for
being here to make it possible, as always we are grateful :)
Kehleyr - The logs will be posted at http://uohoc.stratics.com
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for further discussion :)
Sannio - Thanks everyone!